Always appreciate any feedback. I’ve put alot of work into some of these foi articles so it’s good that people respect the research in comparison to the mainstream media.
Brilliant thanks. Sharing to fakebook and twitter. Need to keep outing the murderers and using our Wrongthink to maximal effect. As we know they want to do this again.
I think there is a general trend away from burials and towards cremations, so the only figures that matter are deaths - as a percentage of population. But then you have to age-adjust them - I mean imagine that 5M child migrants arrived in Scotland tomorrow, then obviously the deaths per 1M would go down. Its complicated (says he, rather despairingly)! Seriously, this body counting is very, very tedious, but what else can we do?
Either way, repeat after me: "there is no evidence of a pandemic"!
So these cremations do not appear to be just burial transfers. It'd explain why they didn't want to examine burials data in order to test their hypothesis.
I believe most of the burial sites are also now full and have been for some time. Think burials account for about 20% of all deaths. Thanks for link. Also see Scotsgov for new cremation method of LIQUIFICATION. Better for the environment. Dead relatives flushed down the sewer, literally. https://www.gov.scot/publications/alkaline-hydrolysis-water-cremation-regulation-scotland/
Yes and no - Christianity is a broad church (hoho) and I don't think the two things are directly related - most denominations these days are very easy going about means of disposal. My parents were Catholics and opted for cremation. Many couples who get married are of mixed faith or none at all, so they opt for secular ceremonies. But sure, there has been a major trend away from having any religious belief at all in Scotland and most of the developed world.
For reasons that appear to relate in part to a breakdown of the multi-generational traditional family unit and community values and traditions - personally I don't try to load any overall 'Moral' interpretation of this trend as the last thing we need is to permit religious institutions to ever again try to dominate secular issues, or to return to sectarianism.
My younger Brother is hard-core Xtian Evangelical, a Billy Graham fanboy, and he applies the same lack of intellectual scrutiny to the existence of an absolute diety and the literal truth of the Bible as he applied to his fanatical embracing of the Vaccines.
How can you say that when you don't have any burial data?
You propose a hypothesis - 'I *think* burials are becoming cremations' - but don't have a complete dataset to prove that point. Are you afraid that if we examined burials data we wouldn't see a decrease in burials?
New for 2023. Based on modelling. All four nations in lockstep.
''This methodology was developed in collaboration with the Office for Health Improvement and Disparities (OHID), the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), Public Health Wales, the Welsh Government, National Records of Scotland (NRS), Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA).''
The method developed by ONS is almost certainly incorrect. The mortality rate fluctuates excessively, thus it does not form a reasonable set of numbers when multiplied by the population.
Can I state, excellent research, please keep up the good work.
Always appreciate any feedback. I’ve put alot of work into some of these foi articles so it’s good that people respect the research in comparison to the mainstream media.
Brilliant thanks. Sharing to fakebook and twitter. Need to keep outing the murderers and using our Wrongthink to maximal effect. As we know they want to do this again.
I think there is a general trend away from burials and towards cremations, so the only figures that matter are deaths - as a percentage of population. But then you have to age-adjust them - I mean imagine that 5M child migrants arrived in Scotland tomorrow, then obviously the deaths per 1M would go down. Its complicated (says he, rather despairingly)! Seriously, this body counting is very, very tedious, but what else can we do?
Either way, repeat after me: "there is no evidence of a pandemic"!
The stats themselves show a quite remarkable trend to opt for cremation over burial, at a rate of 1% extra per annum or so. Its clearly cultural.
Actually biologyphenom, I think they're just trying to spread FUD.
Based on burials data that goes up to 2018, burials did not actually decline but continued to rise in-line with cremations, see here:
https://www.fbca.org.uk/information/statistics/
So these cremations do not appear to be just burial transfers. It'd explain why they didn't want to examine burials data in order to test their hypothesis.
It's also worth noting that, Scotland only has 34 crematoriums, but something like 2,240 burial sites:
https://www.gov.scot/policies/death-and-end-of-life/burial-cremation-and-death-certification/
I believe most of the burial sites are also now full and have been for some time. Think burials account for about 20% of all deaths. Thanks for link. Also see Scotsgov for new cremation method of LIQUIFICATION. Better for the environment. Dead relatives flushed down the sewer, literally. https://www.gov.scot/publications/alkaline-hydrolysis-water-cremation-regulation-scotland/
Isn't that basically the quicklime method serial killers use to hide evidence of their crimes? My word.
Yes and no - Christianity is a broad church (hoho) and I don't think the two things are directly related - most denominations these days are very easy going about means of disposal. My parents were Catholics and opted for cremation. Many couples who get married are of mixed faith or none at all, so they opt for secular ceremonies. But sure, there has been a major trend away from having any religious belief at all in Scotland and most of the developed world.
For reasons that appear to relate in part to a breakdown of the multi-generational traditional family unit and community values and traditions - personally I don't try to load any overall 'Moral' interpretation of this trend as the last thing we need is to permit religious institutions to ever again try to dominate secular issues, or to return to sectarianism.
My younger Brother is hard-core Xtian Evangelical, a Billy Graham fanboy, and he applies the same lack of intellectual scrutiny to the existence of an absolute diety and the literal truth of the Bible as he applied to his fanatical embracing of the Vaccines.
"I think there is a general trend away from burials and towards cremations"
This would be a very easy hypothesis to test. Pull the burials data as well.
If burials have a similar net rise, then it isn't a transference from one dataset to another, but a total net increase.
No, the article shows clearly that more many people are opting for cremation - its a lifestyle (er, haha, a 'deathstyle' ) choice, LOL
How can you say that when you don't have any burial data?
You propose a hypothesis - 'I *think* burials are becoming cremations' - but don't have a complete dataset to prove that point. Are you afraid that if we examined burials data we wouldn't see a decrease in burials?
Can you get daily timeseries?
If so, ask for three types of data:
1) Cremations by date of death
2) Cremations by date of application (if that is relevant)
3) Cremations by date of execution (date of actual cremation)
It is even better if individual records are available
Unlikely.
Are they using the new ONS method or the old one?
New for 2023. Based on modelling. All four nations in lockstep.
''This methodology was developed in collaboration with the Office for Health Improvement and Disparities (OHID), the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), Public Health Wales, the Welsh Government, National Records of Scotland (NRS), Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA).''
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/estimatingexcessdeathsintheukmethodologychanges/latest
The method developed by ONS is almost certainly incorrect. The mortality rate fluctuates excessively, thus it does not form a reasonable set of numbers when multiplied by the population.
ONS figures *are* incorrect.
Dr Clare Craig wrote evidence showing how badly they fudged the datasets, which I compiled here:
https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/ons-covers-up-excess-deaths-fudgegate